tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3001434439078518468.post1975177767442475621..comments2024-01-08T13:43:58.220-05:00Comments on Brillig: The Agent as PublisherThe Brillig Bloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07886394602447693115noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3001434439078518468.post-25438956228286358552011-07-02T10:11:02.299-04:002011-07-02T10:11:02.299-04:00I don't think that editors can buy every good ...I don't think that editors can buy every good project they see. It's FABULOUS if there are other avenues.<br /><br />As for the rest of it, I agree with Elizabeth Moon for the most part. An agent who has set up a business and proved he is selling many a book through a traditional route has earned a reputation for knowing a solid book. If that book doesn't sell the trad route, I think it's fine to help the writer self-publish OR for the agent to become the publisher.<br /><br />Will the agent look bad if the book doesn't sell? No. Obscurity is your friend and your enemy. Will the writer? No. See obscurity.<br /><br />There's more to publishing than putting a book out on a website. It has to be marketed. Price correctly. Branding (or the agent/writer creating a reputation for quality) is extremely important. <br /><br />If an agent OR a writer get into publishing, they have to take on all the tasks: Cover, editing--and promotion. That last can make or break a book, no matter who puts it out, no matter how good the material.<br /><br />A good agent has already learned this and can share a multitude of knowledge with a writer--whether that writer self-publishes, goes through the agent or the book sells traditionally.<br /><br />The world right now is open to writers. Best to take advantage of it. Explore and never be afraid of failure. Standing still is the surest way to fail.Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11234907275906877802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3001434439078518468.post-69312451267279043572011-07-01T19:20:36.054-04:002011-07-01T19:20:36.054-04:00DGLM's announcement gives the impression that ...DGLM's announcement gives the impression that they agonized over this decision, but were finally coerced into a conflict of interest by parties employing "evolve or die" scare tactics. Still, claiming to maintain professional integrity while scandalizing a fiduciary relationship is just a case of wanting to have one's cake and eat it too.<br /><br />I can't solely blame DGLM, though. To an extent, they're victims of circumstances that began back in the 80s with the publishing house merger boom. Four publishers would merge, but the editorial staff of only one would be retained, resulting in a fourfold workload increase. This phenomenon was the primary reason why literary agencies increasingly became the first line of defense for acquisitions editors. The fact that most major houses stopped accepting unagented manuscripts already heralded the breakdown in division of labor between agents and publishers, a trend whose repercussions are continuing to unfold.Brian Niemeierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895550626683227211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3001434439078518468.post-2277321749962767182011-06-30T15:31:20.973-04:002011-06-30T15:31:20.973-04:00I'm not a published author, but the announceme...I'm not a published author, but the announcement DGLM put up made me a little antsy. I blame Dean Wesley Smith on that one--he has strong opinions on the role of an agent that I tend to agree with, so this move as "first publisher" just seemed, well, wrong to me.<br /><br />Thanks for sharing your (and Eddie's) two cents.Charlie N. Holmberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13546802577363686054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3001434439078518468.post-90564574289044886952011-06-30T14:53:14.661-04:002011-06-30T14:53:14.661-04:00I'd worry about the conflict of interest invol...I'd worry about the conflict of interest involved here. If your agent is also your primary publisher, who will negotiate that contract? With secondary publication, there's at least going to be a paper trail about how much the property has been worth in the past and what kinds of terms have been attached to the e-publishing rights. But the more agents become publishers, the more I feel like I'm going to need an agent to represent me to my agent.Janci Oldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02328442487471904305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3001434439078518468.post-35840153014368085162011-06-30T14:01:20.619-04:002011-06-30T14:01:20.619-04:00Not only do I think the differences can be made, I...Not only do I think the differences can be made, I think it's important to make them. I would not feel comfortable signing with an agent whose agency offered first-time publishing solutions. It fundamentally erodes the trust I have for that person to properly represent my interests as expected of an agent.<br /><br />Whereas publishing backlist titles into an eformat is a new and necessary revenue stream. Like Elizabeth mentions, not all authors are capable of pursuing this route themselves and an agency that can offer this service positions themselves and their clients well for the digital future.<br /><br />Watching the discussion continue across the blogospheres, I see the slippery slope that it is becoming. The line gets a little blurrier and positions move by baby steps. People that advocated backlist publishing are now buying into the hype, thinking they can responsibly represent their clients while competing for their work as a publisher.Joseph L. Selbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16629531390894108695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3001434439078518468.post-77912024724228121562011-06-29T19:45:46.483-04:002011-06-29T19:45:46.483-04:00It's all about an organization staying true to...It's all about an organization staying true to its core competencies. Of course, these can be expanded, but that often comes at great cost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3001434439078518468.post-59264053314512883052011-06-29T18:37:23.561-04:002011-06-29T18:37:23.561-04:00I wrote something on this topic earlier today, whe...I wrote something on this topic earlier today, when Victoria Strauss's Writer Beware blog post showed up on the SFWA site, reacting to the same announcement. (There seems no tidy way to insert a link to what I wrote there, but http://www.sfwa.org/ gets you to the front page.) <br /><br />I understand the concerns expressed by all expressing concerns, but I also think that writers are not all alike, don't all need the same things (excepting money and chocolate!), and thus are not all subject to the same purported dangers in all situations when an agent may help a client writer get their work up as an e-book.<br /><br />Some writers (I know a few) are quite capable of putting out e-book-ready files, designing and making covers, and dealing with the various procedures for getting their work up on Amazon, B&N, etc. They are already completely internet and e-book savvy. Other writers are still struggling to cope with having a web presence at all. Some are childless, partnerless (or partnered with a tech genius) and have no day job. Others have a load of responsibilities that already impinge on their writing time. Some have oop backlists; some don't. There is no one perfect route to having self-published work up online with income flowing (as it should) to the writer.<br /><br />For this reason I'm unwilling to be on either extreme here. I do think that since I can hire other people to do more than one job, on separate contracts, I could probably hire the same person in his/her agent role (when what I want is agent services) and in the "publishing assistant" role when I want to put a novella (for instance) on the internet. (That's assuming the agent has time to do both.) <br /><br />But in the spirit of "there's not just one right way..." I don't think that's a route the inexperienced writer should take, or that agents should push this possibility on them. If the writer wants to learn all the skills needed...fine. Agent should stand back, go hands-off, and let the writer try it. But with more experienced writers, who have their wits about them, agent help with getting a backlist up online in a professional way could well be good for both. I do think it will require a formal recognition that this is not an "agent/client" situation.<br /><br />I'm not at all concerned about "insulting the editors..." etc. Editors are human, know they're human, and know they make mistakes--and they also know their position in a corporation means they don't get to make the final decisions (and they get blamed for "mistakes" that were a committee's or bean-counter's error.) As well, in a pure-online context, fewer sales can easily make a noticeable gain to a writer--when they'd be piddly to a corporation. So that one's a non-starter for me.<br /><br />And as mentioned by others--the whole thing is so fluid right now that nobody knows the best strategy. Many will be tried in the next few years and then we may have a clue.Elizabeth Moonhttp://www.elizabethmoon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3001434439078518468.post-71418799657650040132011-06-29T17:08:57.551-04:002011-06-29T17:08:57.551-04:00This seems like something that's almost guaran...This seems like something that's almost guaranteed to make an agency no longer an agency. The way I see it, it could go one of two routes. Down the first path, the agency discovers that those ebooks actually sell--and sell well. In that case, why in the world bother with traditional publishing houses? The agency starts moving more and more toward becoming a publisher themselves. Down the second path, the books don't sell well. The agency not only loses respect and credibility, but it's now actively antagonized the very people they're supposed to be making good relationships with. It seems like it would be difficult to try to sell something to someone who's also your competitor. Does McDonald's sell food in grocery stores?<br /><br />But I could be wrong. One of the great things about ebooks right now is that everyone's not quite sure what they're going to do, and where they're going to end up as an established product. So you have all sorts of people throwing different approaches at them. Some of those approaches will work. Some won't. And you can't always be certain ahead of time which approaches will fall into which category.brycemoorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16551239249927256935noreply@blogger.com